Comments on: It Costs How Much?! — A Rumination On the Economics of Collectible Games http://www.robotviking.com/2009/10/22/it-costs-how-much-a-rumination-on-the-economics-of-collectible-games/ Gaming Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:49:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: ggodo http://www.robotviking.com/2009/10/22/it-costs-how-much-a-rumination-on-the-economics-of-collectible-games/comment-page-1/#comment-1284 ggodo Fri, 23 Oct 2009 20:22:25 +0000 http://www.robotviking.com/?p=1659#comment-1284 I'm just really annnoyed that my friends want to buy a deck and play. not buy a deck, open a pack, get cards that don't help them, then rely on donations from people who have been playing longer, then play. Yea, and what the heck is up with the no boxes thing? That doesn't even make any sense. I'm not going to buy one of their uber plastic ones for the price of another deck, and most folks aren't going to make their own from card board and duct tape like I do when I run out of boxes. I’m just really annnoyed that my friends want to buy a deck and play. not buy a deck, open a pack, get cards that don’t help them, then rely on donations from people who have been playing longer, then play. Yea, and what the heck is up with the no boxes thing? That doesn’t even make any sense. I’m not going to buy one of their uber plastic ones for the price of another deck, and most folks aren’t going to make their own from card board and duct tape like I do when I run out of boxes.

]]> By: Ed Grabianowski http://www.robotviking.com/2009/10/22/it-costs-how-much-a-rumination-on-the-economics-of-collectible-games/comment-page-1/#comment-1283 Ed Grabianowski Fri, 23 Oct 2009 19:46:59 +0000 http://www.robotviking.com/?p=1659#comment-1283 I don't like the new decks either - the 40 card thing bugs me, because they don't match up against all the other precons I've collected over the years. But the worst part to me is that they don't come with boxes! I don’t like the new decks either – the 40 card thing bugs me, because they don’t match up against all the other precons I’ve collected over the years. But the worst part to me is that they don’t come with boxes!

]]> By: ggodo http://www.robotviking.com/2009/10/22/it-costs-how-much-a-rumination-on-the-economics-of-collectible-games/comment-page-1/#comment-1282 ggodo Fri, 23 Oct 2009 19:42:03 +0000 http://www.robotviking.com/?p=1659#comment-1282 This is why I rarely buy singles, and until they stopped selling them, almost exclusively bought tournament packs and precon decks. To me, the casual player who buys cards more for variety than power, these were the best way to get cards that I would be able to use. Buy a precon, bam, instant deck. Buy a tournament pack, buncha cars, and enough land you could begin making a a nonprecon based deck. Plus they were a better deal. $10-$12 for the equivalent of 3 boosters + land was more justifiable to me than $4 for stuff I probably won't find a use for without a deck from the set. these new intro packs are crap, they cost the same as three packs, give you less than three packs worth of cards and don't give you enough cards to actually play the game even if the booster pack contains all on color cards. Heck, the only thing I feel even vaguely justified buying is the fat packs, and after doing the math, those are a rip off too. Grrrrrrrrr. . . . I want tournament packs and real precon decks back. This is why I rarely buy singles, and until they stopped selling them, almost exclusively bought tournament packs and precon decks. To me, the casual player who buys cards more for variety than power, these were the best way to get cards that I would be able to use. Buy a precon, bam, instant deck. Buy a tournament pack, buncha cars, and enough land you could begin making a a nonprecon based deck. Plus they were a better deal. $10-$12 for the equivalent of 3 boosters + land was more justifiable to me than $4 for stuff I probably won’t find a use for without a deck from the set. these new intro packs are crap, they cost the same as three packs, give you less than three packs worth of cards and don’t give you enough cards to actually play the game even if the booster pack contains all on color cards. Heck, the only thing I feel even vaguely justified buying is the fat packs, and after doing the math, those are a rip off too. Grrrrrrrrr. . . . I want tournament packs and real precon decks back.

]]> By: mordicai http://www.robotviking.com/2009/10/22/it-costs-how-much-a-rumination-on-the-economics-of-collectible-games/comment-page-1/#comment-1281 mordicai Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:53:26 +0000 http://www.robotviking.com/?p=1659#comment-1281 I was just going through the Tome of Magic from ADnD 2e with a gamer new to 4e & she was cracking up at the Wild Magic tables... I was just going through the Tome of Magic from ADnD 2e with a gamer new to 4e & she was cracking up at the Wild Magic tables…

]]> By: The BullLifter http://www.robotviking.com/2009/10/22/it-costs-how-much-a-rumination-on-the-economics-of-collectible-games/comment-page-1/#comment-1278 The BullLifter Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:20:27 +0000 http://www.robotviking.com/?p=1659#comment-1278 Heh. I was always willing to pay more for a card that had nice artwork, increasing my desirability for it. Newer/older version price would change in my head depending on if artwork changed for better or worse. Damn I'm shallow. Even askew to Mordicai's point: Whenever I was asked why I can spend upwards of $60 on a video game, and not be willing to pay $12.50 for a freaking movie, I always responded the same way. I play the hell out my games. It usually ends up being less than $1 per hour for a video game, whereas, I am lucky to get $4 an hour for a decent movie. More on point to Mordicai's point: I have read my old Battletech sourcebooks for hours upon hours upon hours beyond any novel. RPG books are great. Heh. I was always willing to pay more for a card that had nice artwork, increasing my desirability for it. Newer/older version price would change in my head depending on if artwork changed for better or worse. Damn I’m shallow.

Even askew to Mordicai’s point: Whenever I was asked why I can spend upwards of $60 on a video game, and not be willing to pay $12.50 for a freaking movie, I always responded the same way. I play the hell out my games. It usually ends up being less than $1 per hour for a video game, whereas, I am lucky to get $4 an hour for a decent movie.

More on point to Mordicai’s point: I have read my old Battletech sourcebooks for hours upon hours upon hours beyond any novel. RPG books are great.

]]> By: Ed Grabianowski http://www.robotviking.com/2009/10/22/it-costs-how-much-a-rumination-on-the-economics-of-collectible-games/comment-page-1/#comment-1277 Ed Grabianowski Thu, 22 Oct 2009 21:14:06 +0000 http://www.robotviking.com/?p=1659#comment-1277 Very true on all points, Mordicai. Even old editions or books from games we don't play any more have useful or at least interesting things in them. Very true on all points, Mordicai. Even old editions or books from games we don’t play any more have useful or at least interesting things in them.

]]> By: mordicai http://www.robotviking.com/2009/10/22/it-costs-how-much-a-rumination-on-the-economics-of-collectible-games/comment-page-1/#comment-1276 mordicai Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:29:52 +0000 http://www.robotviking.com/?p=1659#comment-1276 Slightly askew of this: I really tout RPG books as well, well worth their 30+ pricetags. Seriously, I go back to certain pages in rule books over & over again. Count the pages, divide by the price, & think how often you use each page-- then compare it to a novel. Gaming books even do well on re-reads; how often have you grabbed one off the shelf to kill five minutes & found something you missed the ten previous times you looked at it? Slightly askew of this: I really tout RPG books as well, well worth their 30+ pricetags. Seriously, I go back to certain pages in rule books over & over again. Count the pages, divide by the price, & think how often you use each page– then compare it to a novel. Gaming books even do well on re-reads; how often have you grabbed one off the shelf to kill five minutes & found something you missed the ten previous times you looked at it?

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